The distinction between a physical presence and the Lord’s Supper
Claim examined: Worship, music, and prayer
Scriptural Answer
rod, Thank you for answering my question. You wrote, "The Jews were the ones who came to eat bread, which Jesus was offering. The mentality of these visiting Jesus centered on food, not spiritual food." Please explain How "the Jews were the ones who came to eat bread, which Jesus was offering"??? How can you state that "The mentality of these visiting Jesus centered on food, not spiritual food"??? This is your interpretation of John 6:54 and the Jews did NOT walk with Jesus to eat PHYSICAL food, if this is the case, please do show me where God specifically stated this in His word. You wrote, "Then, Jesus began to offer them the spiritual food needed for enternal life. The Jews were pretty much confused as to what Jesus was talking about. The Jews, afterall, were after food for their flesh, not food for their souls. Jesus reminded them of the Manna given to them not by Moses, but given to them by God from Heaven. And now, God was giving them the bread from Heaven-the Saviour. The Jews still did not understand and could not make the connection. I think that the Scriptures in John 6:54 could be interpreted as a reflection of how the Jews were thinking. What the Jews could understand was that the only way to accept Christ would be by actually eating him. This was the only way that they would accept Christ. This was the only thing they could understand, because the concept of eternal life was inconceivable as being a spiritual life. They took it to mean an eternal life here on earth as never dying of the flesh. The Jews, confused, walk away. It would seem that Jesus used a sarcastic remark in order to reflect how the Jews interpreted His words. But, I think there is still more. If it is true that we see the presence of God in many thing and beings, it is true that God and Jesus are one (add the Holy Spirit)." My reply: Yes, the Jews did NOT understand for they thought that he was LITERALLY speaking of EATING HIS FLESH and DRINKING HIS BLOOD, but this is NOT what He meant for He EXPLAINED how this was NOT the case in John 6:63 when He said, "It is the Spirit who gives life; the flesh profits nothing. The words that I speak to you are spirit, and they are life." Jesus knew that there would be many who would NOT BELIEVE in Him that is why He said in John 6:64, "But there are some of you who do not believe." After Jesus made the following statement in John 6:65, "And He said, "Therefore I have said to you that no one can come to Me unless it has been granted to him by My Father." Verse 66 states, "From that time many of His disciples went back and walked with Him no more." They walked with Him NO MORE because they did NOT BELIEVE and this had absoulutely NOTHING to do with PHYSICAL FOOD. You wrote, "If we see the presence of God in all that He created, we can see God in the flowers, oceans, sky, and people. Why then is it impossible to experience the presence of God, Jesus, in the Holy Eucharist? Even if it is a symbolic gesture or celebration, why is it not possible to experience the presence of the "Host" in the Eucharist? Why can the Pentecostals claim to have the Holy Spirit enter them yet not understand the Eucharist? My reply: Because there is NO Physical presence in what you call the Eucharist. (The word of God calls it the Lord's Supper.) Pentecostals do NOT have the Holy Spirit, for that is all they do is make FALSE CLAIMS that they have the Holy Spirit.
KJV Scriptures Used
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