The return with angels and the rising of the dead
Claim examined: Worship, music, and prayer
Scriptural Answer
You wrote, "Compare with Jude 14 and 1 Thessalonians 4:14. The Lord brings with him those who have preceeded us in death. I do believe that you are hung up on the word "saints" in Jude 14... Actually Jesus will be returning with the angels... not the saints... for it is written in 2 Thesssalonians 1:7-8, "7 and to give you who are troubled rest with us when the Lord Jesus is revealed from heaven with His mighty angels, 8 in flaming fire taking vengeance on those who do not know God, and on those who do not obey the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ." The dead will rise first and then those who are alive and remain will rise and meet Jesus in the air... It is the angels that will be coming with Jesus...
KJV Scriptures Used
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