Does unconditional election conflict with divine impartiality?
Claim examined: Faith, grace, and obedience
Scriptural Answer
David wrote, "Do we have to be baptized by someone from your building callled the church of christ to be saved? Yes or No? Can an atheist baptize me so long as I believe in "FOR!!!!"? I don't see how your verse answered my questions." One must first be TAUGHT (whether by Preaching or Reading the word of God with the correct understanding). I have answered this question for you before David, NO one does NOT have to be baptized by someone from "my building called the church of Christ to be saved" Yes, even an "athiest" can baptized someone as long as there are witnesses to the good confession that one MUST make. (See Acts 8:37). David wrote, "Wow, I don't know what you think "Holy Spirit Baptism" is... Would you please explain to everyone what is this "Holy Spirit Baptism" you keep insisting I believe. Anyways, I'm talking about receiving the gift of the Holy Spirit (what I called Spirit baptism). Romans 8:9 says,"if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, he does not belong to Him"." Ok David, I mistook your belief and what Faith has stated her beliefs are to be the same. Whether you believe as Faith believes or not really does NOT matter for there is still NO such thing as Holy Spirit baptism. Romans 8:9 is NOT speaking of NON-Christians. The "gift" of the Spirit ? i.e. the gift of prophecy, speaking in tongues, the working of miracles etc. have all CEASED. We have had this discussion before, but this thread is NOT the appropriate thread to discuss them in detail. I wrote, "[name omitted] added,"How does one get faith David??? Is it by some miraculous event that the Holy Spirit comes upon someone and allows them to have faith???" To which David replied, "God appoints people to believe (Acts 13). God grants the act of believing (Phil 1). Faith is a gift from God (Eph 2)." David unfortunately you are MISTAKEN once again. Faith ONLY comes by "HEARING", and "hearing by the word of God". (Romans 10:17). One can either ACCEPT the gospel message of salvation (See Romans 1:16), or REJECT the gospel message of salvation at their own peril. (See 2 Thessalonians 1:7-9). Yes, Faith is a gift from God, however, please explain how God "grants the act of believing"??? Luke wrote, "Faith is not a passive reception of God's gift. If God had preelected those of us who will be saved and those who won't be, then the command is futile." Yes this is TRUE, if God destined some to be saved and others to be lost, then God would be a "respecter of persons" and would CLEARLY violate passages such as Acts 10:34 and Romans 2:11 and 2 Peter 3:9. Those who believe such nonsense are basically calling God a LIAR.
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