The complete response to passages offered for inherited original sin
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Scriptural Answer
Emily wrote, "We see here that it's indeed talking about individual responsibility, and you cited "the son shall not bear the iniquity of the father" as meaning not inheriting original sin. This is false. Look at the verse before, "the son hath done that which is lawful and right," thus making the son capable of action, to choose what's right!" Emily you make no sense at all in what you wrote above. Please explain how an infant can do "that which is lawful and right"??? Please also explain how an infant is "capable of action, to choose what's right!" as you state above??? Then you said, "This is saying that a son will not be punished for his father's sin." Which is my point exactly!!! How can an infant be punished for something they did not do??? You quoted Duet. 1:39 and said, "This verse does not negate original sin - it simply shows that there is a certain age of responsibility, and before that children cannot know "between good and evil," however, it doesn't say that they don't have sin." If the children have "no knowledge between good and evil" which is exactly what this verse states, then it is IMPOSSIBLE for them to sin. Yes, there is a certain age of responsibility and before they have the knowledge of "good and evil" they have NO sin. Did Adam and Eve SIN before they had the knowledge of "good and evil"??? You wrote, "Now for some verses to support the idea of original sin: Ps. 51:5 Behold, I was shapen in iniquity; and in sin did my mother conceive me." We are ALL born into a sinful world, because of one man, there IS sin in the world however that does NOT mean that we INHERIT their sin. This verse does not mention Adam, Adam's sin, nor that we inherit the guilt of Adam's sin. There are numerous Bible verses, in plain, literal language, that affirm the innocency of infants, and Psalm 51:5 does NOT prove the idea of original sin. Scripture PLAINLY teaches that sin is not inherited. What did Jesus say concerning little children in Mark 19:14??? If original sin is INHERITED, then Jesus was born a SINNER. This is the logical consequence of such a false doctrine for it has no basis in the word of God. Later on you talk about "picking and choosing" verses, this is EXACTLY what you are doing Emily... Emily, please explain what is the definition of sin??? Next you quoted, "Jn. 9:34 They answered and said unto him, Thou wast altogether born in sins, and dost thou teach us? And they cast him out." Does this verse say that he was born a sinner??? If you will READ this in CONTEXT (Note David this is for you also), please go back and read John 9:1-5. Jesus REFUTED this false doctrine of original sin for he PLAINLY reveals in verse 3 when He stated, "NEITHER THIS MAN NOR HIS PARENTS SINNED, but that the WORKS OF GOD SHOULD BE REVEALED IN HIM." This verse also does not mention Adam, Adam's sin, nor that we inherit the guilt of Adam's sin. Another passage that affirms original sin DEFEATED. You quoted, "Psalm 58:1-3 Do ye indeed speak righteousness, O congregation? do ye judge uprightly, O ye sons of men? Yea, in heart ye work wickedness; ye weigh the violence of your hands in the earth. The wicked are estranged from the womb: they go astray as soon as they be born, speaking lies." Please explain to everyone here Emily HOW an infant can SPEAK LIES as soon as they are born??? Is an infant able to do this??? Since you CANNOT prove that an infant is able to SPEAK, much less tell a lie as soon as they are born, then once again your doctrine of original sin is FALSE. Please also explain how one can "go astray" if they are ALREADY born in sin??? This verse also does not mention Adam, Adam's sin, nor that we inherit the guilt of Adam's sin. You quoted, "Is. 48:8 Yea, thou heardest not; yea, thou knewest not; yea, from that time that thine ear was not opened: for I knew that thou wouldest deal very treacherously, and wast called a transgressor from the womb." Please explain WHO the prophet Isaiah was speaking of in this passage??? Was he speaking of an infant??? or was he speaking of the nation of Israel??? This verse also does not mention Adam, Adam's sin, nor that we inherit the guilt of Adam's sin. Where is the passage that teaches that anyone is guilty of sin because he inherited his guilt from Adam or one is guilty before they commit sin? Why do the Jews NOT believe in original sin??? Where is the passage that says a person will be judged or eternally condemned because of guilt one inherits from Adam?
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